Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME FORUMS BLOGS BOOKS LINKS DONATE ADVERTISE CONTACT  
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Tue May 22, 2012 1:07 pm




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 
Ch. 2 - The Fallacy of Supply and Demand 
Author Message
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12131
Images: 0
Location: Florida
Highscores: 145
Thanks: 856
Thanked: 378 times in 300 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

 Ch. 2 - The Fallacy of Supply and Demand
Ch. 2 - The Fallacy of Supply and Demand



Fri May 28, 2010 6:11 pm
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Reads During Parties

Gold Contributor

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3892
Location: Berryville, Virginia
Thanks: 689
Thanked: 561 times in 453 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Ch. 2 - The Fallacy of Supply and Demand
I don't have the new & improved, revised & expanded version of Dan's book, but I'm enjoying it anyway. I wonder if, with the new & improved bit, Dan is trying to appeal to our irrational insecurities about having all the latest and best :roll: (Chris: Ariely would be great to have in a live author chat.)

If anyone's trying to decide whether to read this book, it's fun and light, reads quickly, very conversational, a little in the mode of Freakonomics or Malcolm Gladwell's books. It's not so much a book that tells you what you didn't know, but one that brings things to your attention in a novel form, making you realize you didn't know what you know. Throughout much of it, of course, Ariely is trying to show how standard economic theory, which is based on rational choices people make, doesn't cut it.

In this chapter, he talks about the influence of anchoring on the price we're willing to pay. It's all in how we're indoctrinated toward a given product, and marketers have a lot of fun--and make a lot of profits--in getting us to set a high initial anchor price for a product. Then we have nowhere to go but up from this price, and marketers make even more money. As Ariely says, "our first decisions resonate over a long sequence of decisions."

Anchoring originates in the same basic mental structure that enables goslings to imprint on the first moving thing they see. We also imprint on the first price we pay for something, and moving the anchor can be slow and difficult for us. We might not be willing to pay more than what we first paid, or pay it grudgingly. On the other hand, if the price of something goes down, our anchoring price causes us great excitement as we rush to take advantage of a bargain. This is the prime reason that consumer electronics have come to rule over our lives, I think. The prices of machines that can do ever greater things continue to go down, so it seems foolish for us not to take advantage of such a bonanza. We might be still anchored to the memory of paying $1,000 for an early computer, so why not pay much less for something that can do much more?

Ariely points out the scientific basis of anchoring, in memory and ultimately in physiology, and sticks closely to the matter of prices, but we can view the phenomenon philosophically as well. In areas other than pricing, anchoring does much to determine how we react to the world, especially in times of change. If we hold very fast to our the anchors of our early socialization, we probably become adult conservatives (not here used negatively), whereas if we reset our anchors with the times, we identify more with liberalism (here used neutrally).



Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:00 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Reads During Parties

Gold Contributor

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3892
Location: Berryville, Virginia
Thanks: 689
Thanked: 561 times in 453 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Ch. 2 - The Fallacy of Supply and Demand
Thinking about the writer's claim that supply and demand is a fallacy, I have to conclude that he doesn't prove this. He seems to chip away at the margins of that principle, but in a macro sense, at least, I can't see that supply and demand is a fallacy. Dan says when each of us go into the marketplace, we really don't know what we want, unlike what classical supply & demand assumes. We are easily influenced by the people marketing the goods and often change our not-made-up minds. So the suppliers can, to a degree, determine what we buy. This is true, but if we go out looking for a TV in a certain price range and are seduced into buying a more expensive one, it doesn't mean that supply & demand is a fallacy. It just means that we've shifted our decision a bit. We still are acting as a demand force that has caused suppliers to make TVs. Similarly, when entrepreneurs bring out totally new products and essentially create a demand for them, such as for black pearls, that doesn't negate the whole principle of supply and demand. Capitalists always take chances on interesting consumers in new things, and this is done at first without apparent demand for the product. Once the ball gets rolling, consumer demand kicks in.



Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:29 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:

Recent Posts 
Prominent Scientists and their religiosity

Tue May 22, 2012 10:27 am

Interbane

Brian Greene on the multiverse

Tue May 22, 2012 4:08 am

Dexter

succesful ways to promote

Tue May 22, 2012 12:33 am

Ban me now

Ch. 9 - The uniqueness of human being

Mon May 21, 2012 9:50 pm

Dexter

Totally Gratuitous Self-Promotion: Doulos

Mon May 21, 2012 9:35 pm

Doulos

Government Institutions

Mon May 21, 2012 8:20 pm

Dexter

Why, Hello there!

Mon May 21, 2012 7:02 pm

Kevin

Short stories by Guy de Maupassant

Mon May 21, 2012 3:28 pm

Toobi

Moby Dick Chapter 63 The Crotch

Mon May 21, 2012 6:57 am

Robert Tulip

Moby Dick Chapter 62 The Dart

Mon May 21, 2012 6:45 am

Robert Tulip


Celebrating 10 Years Online!

BookTalk.org Links 
Forum Rules & Tips
Frequently Asked Questions
BBCode Explained
Info for Authors & Publishers
Featured Book Suggestions
Author Interview Transcripts
Be a Book Discussion Leader!
    

Love to talk about books but don't have time for our book discussion forums? For casual book talk join us on Facebook.

Support BookTalk.org 
BookTalk.org is being upgraded to a totally new design. This upgrade is expensive. Any support would be VERY helpful! See who supports us.
Make a donation

PEOPLE PAYING FOR OUR UPGRADE:

• afv - $10 May
• LevV - $50 March
• Dexter - $10 March
• supernova38 - $25 March
• Oblivion - $20 March
• jheimlich - $20 February
• Robert Tulip - $50 February
• giselle - $50 January


Featured Books

Recent Blogging 

WORMING TABLETS AND WESTFIELD

24th March

Children here need worming regularly, and  I think I need to buy more worming tablets, so while my friends sit on the beach, I have to catch bush taxis up to the… more

Posted: 16 days ago
by heledd

TUESDAY 20TH MARCH

The children have a long way to walk to the nearest primary school. At the moment they are in temporary accommodation, with volunteer teachers. There is community land available, a… more

Posted: 18 days ago
by heledd

The 12th Disciple $3.99 (USD) on Kindle...

The price of The 12th Disciple has been updated to $3.99 for Kindle readers. The book is still available for free to borrow for Amazon Prime members.  To be competitive, and s… more

Posted: 21 days ago
by 12th disciple

The 12th Disciple reviews...

The 12th Disciple has been reviewed by two different people on Amazon. They purchased the Kindle edition; one in the US, one in the UK. One review was 5-stars (US) and the oth… more

Posted: 29 days ago
by 12th disciple

The Stages ‘In’ and ‘Out’ of Life

From the book; The Joys of Live Alchemy

Every human being experiences distinct stages in their lives. First, birth... Second, learning to walk and talkÂ…Third, learning the rule… more

Posted: 37 days ago
by michaellevys

Hello world!

Welcome to BookTalk.org Blogs. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, then start blogging!

See those links at the very top of the page? To get into your control panel for… more

Posted: 37 days ago
by michaellevys

Cutting Truths - Book Review

This review is from: Cutting Truths: Fifty Enlightening Slices of Life (Paperback) 178 pages ... 5.0 out of 5 stars     Sleeper Cells Awaken,

By Julie Clayton… more

Posted: 38 days ago
by michaellevys

Nonviolence Quotes

From Gandhi:

“Anger is the enemy of nonviolence and pride is the monster that swallows it up.”

“An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.”

“I have nothing ne… more

Posted: 42 days ago
by jamessanderson

Harry Potter Enthusiast

I'd like to say I've been reading Harry Potter since the day the world renown series appeared on the scene.  Unfortunately, the truth is I began reading Harry Potter… more

Posted: 44 days ago
by kinse1na

Good Friday, Better Saturday, Blessed Sunday

Easter teaches many of us the importance of redemption and resurrection. Regardless of what faith people follow, the story of Jesus Christ has been told in many languages in many c… more

Posted: 45 days ago
by 12th disciple

Let The Blogging Begin!

Our Book Talk will begin on Wednesday, May 2nd. I look forward to hearing about your learning and classroom experiences with Number Talks as it all unfolds...

Posted: 50 days ago
by msbeth

MONDAY 12TH MARCH. COMMONWEALTH DAY

Today is Commonwealth Day. All the children come in their various ethnic clothes and bring food traditional to their groups.

We have Fula, Mandinka, Manjargo, Wollof , Jola… more

Posted: 51 days ago
by heledd

CHRISTIAN NONVIOLENCE

NONOPPOSITIONAL NONVIOLENCE “The minute you conquer the fear of death, at that moment you are free. I submit to you that if a man hasnÂ’t discovered something that he will die f… more

Posted: 52 days ago
by jamessanderson

FEBRUARY 26TH, SUNDAY

Yesterday, when I went to feed Jeni the donkey, I noticed swarms of bees entering EbrimaÂ’s house through the cracks in the door. We both had a look, but he didnÂ’t open his door… more

Posted: 52 days ago
by heledd

Exciting News...Now You Can Order Blessings of the Father - Book One on sale at only $4.98 on B&N.com!

Hello fellow followers of the written word:

I'm pleased to tell you that there is finally a downloadable epub version for Book One of my saga; Blessings of the Father … more

Posted: 77 days ago
by mitchreed

What Number Talks Is All About

Whether you want to implement number talks but are unsure of how to begin or have experience but want more guidance in crafting purposeful problems, this dynamic multimedia resourc… more

Posted: 77 days ago
by msbeth

Feeling Entitled Is Not Always A Bad Thing

Do you feel entitled? For years I have listened to and, in some instances, complained that some people in America feel entitled. For years I have watched as these people are portra… more

Posted: 78 days ago
by life is a business

Free Kindle promotion very successful for The 12th Disciple

On Fat Tuesday and Ash Wednesday of 2012, The 12th Disciple was free to Kindle users on both days. In all, about 550 worldwide Kindle users downloaded a copy of the book.

The 12… more

Posted: 79 days ago
by 12th disciple

Sacred Are the Brave

‘Sacred Are the BraveÂ’ a collection of short stories about the nonviolent revolutions 1986-1989 is now available in Kindle. Each of the nine stories has characters who are just … more

Posted: 82 days ago
by jamessanderson

The Weekend Trippers

The Weekend TrippersÂ’ is the true story of Rfn Ted Taylor and his part in the heroic last stand in Calais May 1940. The Weekend Trippers is based on TedÂ’s diaries written at the… more

Posted: 85 days ago
by carolemct






BookTalk.org Chat Room 
Enter the BookTalk.org Chat Room

Enter our Chat [0]

Chat Room Always Open!

Tell your friends when to meet you
in the BookTalk.org Chat Room.

If you enjoy business bestsellers and would like to expand your business knowledge check out the quality book summaries offered by the world's leading book summary company.






BookTalk.org is a free book discussion group or online reading group or book club. We read and talk about both fiction and non-fiction books as a group. We host live author chats where booktalk members can interact with and interview authors. We give away free books to our members in book giveaway contests. Our booktalks are open to everybody who enjoys talking about books. Our book forums include book reviews, author interviews and book resources for readers and book lovers. Discussing books is our passion. We're a literature forum, or reading forum. Register a free book club account today! Suggest nonfiction and fiction books. Authors and publishers are welcome to advertise their books or ask for an author chat or author interview.


Navigation 
MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEFORUMSBOOKSTRANSCRIPTSOLD FORUMSADVERTISELINKSBLOGSFAQDONATETERMS OF USEPRIVACY POLICY

BOOK FORUMS FOR ALL BOOKS WE HAVE DISCUSSED
Moby Dick: or, the Whale by Herman MelvilleA Visit from the Goon Squad by Jennifer EganLost Memory of Skin: A Novel by Russell BanksThe Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. KuhnHobbes: Leviathan by Thomas HobbesThe House of the Spirits - by Isabel AllendeArguably: Essays by Christopher HitchensThe Falls: A Novel (P.S.) by Joyce Carol OatesChrist in Egypt by D.M. MurdockThe Glass Bead Game: A Novel by Hermann HesseA Devil's Chaplain by Richard DawkinsThe Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellThe Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor DostoyevskyThe Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark TwainThe Moral Landscape by Sam HarrisThe Decameron by Giovanni BoccaccioThe Road by Cormac McCarthyThe Grand Design by Stephen HawkingThe Evolution of God by Robert WrightThe Tin Drum by Gunter GrassGood Omens by Neil GaimanPredictably Irrational by Dan ArielyThe Wind-Up Bird Chronicle: A Novel by Haruki MurakamiALONE: Orphaned on the Ocean by Richard Logan & Tere Duperrault FassbenderDon Quixote by Miguel De CervantesMusicophilia by Oliver SacksDiary of a Madman and Other Stories by Nikolai GogolThe Passion of the Western Mind by Richard TarnasThe Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le GuinThe Genius of the Beast by Howard BloomAlice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll Empire of Illusion by Chris HedgesThe Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner The Extended Phenotype by Richard DawkinsSmoke and Mirrors by Neil GaimanThe Selfish Gene by Richard DawkinsWhen Good Thinking Goes Bad by Todd C. RinioloHouse of Leaves by Mark Z. DanielewskiAmerican Gods: A Novel by Neil GaimanPrimates and Philosophers by Frans de WaalThe Enormous Room by E.E. CummingsThe Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar WildeGod Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher HitchensThe Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama Paradise Lost by John Milton Bad Money by Kevin PhillipsThe Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson BurnettGodless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists by Dan BarkerThe Things They Carried by Tim O'BrienThe Limits of Power by Andrew BacevichLolita by Vladimir NabokovOrlando by Virginia Woolf On Being Certain by Robert A. Burton50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. HarrisonWalden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David ThoreauExile and the Kingdom by Albert CamusOur Inner Ape by Frans de WaalYour Inner Fish by Neil ShubinNo Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthyThe Age of American Unreason by Susan JacobyTen Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David HabermanHeart of Darkness by Joseph ConradThe Stuff of Thought by Stephen PinkerA Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled HosseiniThe Lucifer Effect by Philip ZimbardoResponsibility and Judgment by Hannah ArendtInterventions by Noam ChomskyGodless in America by George A. RickerReligious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. HaimanDeep Economy by Phil McKibbenThe God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael PollanI, Claudius by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them by Al FrankenThe Red Queen by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

OTHER PAGES WORTH EXPLORING
Banned Book ListOur Amazon.com SalesMassimo Pigliucci Rationally SpeakingOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism BooksFACTS Book Selections

cron
Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2011. All rights reserved.
Website developed by MidnightCoder.ca
Display Pagerank