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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Another model Christian? Reply with quote
I have another wonderful experience to add.

At my work I have been told that book talk is not an appropriate site to be visiting, it was deemed offensive (No reason was given, but I can only think of one reason) by our network administrator. So I will no longer be able to post during the day (until I can bypass the fire wall)

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Peer review Reply with quote
Can you post those papers for our enlightenment? Perhaps in a private space so he doesn't sue for copyright infringement. :smokin

Sounds rather sad, imagine the amount of mental energy and emotional stress it took to work out those weird theories...

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
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Can you post those papers for our enlightenment?


I really do not want to type out all of the stuff he wrote, but if I can get my wife to type it out I will post it here.

Or if I just get board enough to spend that kind of time retyping someone else’s work.

If I do post it I don’t think that it will be a problem, I suspect that since his motive is (at least partly) to get this material in front of people (he did make flyers after all) that he would not mind it being posted, I will also make sure to give him credit for the material (I certainly do not want it to be confused as my writing).

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
Can you scan it and send it as a PDF to me personally? It will save you the typing.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
I'll have to type it out, my scanner is not a flat top, it feeds like a fax machine, and these little flyers won’t fit.

Also, I do not have them with me here at work so I won't be able to start on them until later.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
Flyer # 1

This flyer is yellow with what appears to be hand rendered and scanned pictures of animals on the front.

The animals are the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse along a single row across the top of the flyer, and a lion with wings, a bear, a leopard with wings and some bipedal creature with 10 horns and a mouth full of sharp teeth, these animals run along the bottom of the flyer in a row.

The title is “The beasts and the horses”

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Written by Sims Gerald Dildy Jr.

I, Didly, was in South Africa in 1988. I went into a trance, while I was on my bed, and had a vision of a bright gleaming hand. In the hand was a black horse with a rider holding a set of balances. Then I heard the Lord say, to whomever’s hand it was, “Have him understand we’re in the third seal.” Immediately I broke out of my trance and jumped to my feet and said “of the book of the seven seals.” Trying to say it in unison with the Lord.

Since that time I have gained understanding, I have discovered that the beasts in the Bible, in chapter 7 of the book of Daniel, correlate with the horses in chapter 6 of the book of Revelation. There are four beasts and four horses. Each beast symbolizes a country and each horse corresponds to a country. In other words each country does what its horse portrays and each country is described by its beast.

In Revelation 6, Germany’s actions are portrayed by the white horse. The horses rider had a bow; and a crown was given to him. He went out conquering and to conquer. This happened during the two world wars.

In Daniel 7, Germany is described by the lion’s allegory. The lion had wings of an eagle and the wings were plucked off to symbolize the division of Germany. The lion was given a man’s heart symbolizing the U.N. which is humane. And the lion is made to stand like a man showing that the Germans restrained to be humanistic.

I understand that in Revelation 6, Russia’s actions are portrayed by the red horse. The Bible says its rider had a sword and he took away peace and caused people to kill one another. This symbolizes the cold war and the enforcement of communism.

In Daniel 7, Russia is described by the bear’s allegory. The bear is raised up on one side, meaning Russia is supported by only part of the people. The bear is told to rise and devour much flesh. (communists killed a lot of people) And it had three ribs in its mouth. These were the people groups put to forced labor.

In Revelation 6 USA’s actions are portrayed by the black horse. Its rider has a set of balances; and a voice in the center of the four living creatures says, “A measure of wheat for a penny and three measures of barley for a penny and see that you don’t hurt the oil or the wine.”

In Daniel 7, USA is described in the leopard’s allegory. It has four wings of a bird, showing its capability, its four heads indicate the four horns of Daniel 8 which symbolizes what will happen when the fourth ruler rises. (Daniel 11) Shroeder was the second. The USA will dominate more after it is divided into four governments.

In Revelation 6, Japan’s future actions are shown by the pale horse. Its rider is death, and Hell followed close behind. This indicates that Japan will have spiritual influence. The horseman destroyed a quarter of the earth with plague, famine, sword, and wild beast. Those without the mark of the beast will be its victims.

In Daniel 7, Japan will be described by the terrible and dreadful beast’s allegory. It has teeth of iron and 10 horns, and it crushed everything that was left. This indicates that Japan will complete a one-world order. Later this beast is destroyed and the other three beasts will live for a while but their dominion will be taken away. Because of its destruction it occurs to me that that Japan is
“BABYLON THE GREAT”

The reason I understand the fourth beast is Japan is because one of the seven heads of the beast in Revelation had a fatal wound indicating the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.

These four countries will form a confederation described in Revelation 13 which is the beast from the sea. It had ten horns (Japan), was like a leopard (USA), Had feet of a bear (Russia), and a mouth as a lion (Germany): “The Beast” in the Bible, is not anything compared to the wheeled living beings in Ezekiel, which allegory is Christ Jesus’ Kingdom.

The beast that comes out of the land in Revelation 13, is Europe. The allegory the two horns refers to the kingdoms of (the Hebrew word; Reich) and 777 (the Hebrew number 666), the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:17). The kingdoms will be divided but combine with each other with the seed of men but they will not adhere (Dan 2:43). Europe is the false prophet that will cause everyone, who is not written in the book of life, to receive the mark of man (mark of the beast).


That’s the first one, digest this for a while I will post flyer #2 in a while.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
Flyer #2

This flyer is on white and has a picture of the earth with the title “What does “Time, Times And A Half” really mean

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Written by Sims Gerald Didly Jr.

“What does “Time, Times And A Half” really mean

This statement is in Dan. 7:25 is “Times time and a dividing of time.” Let me introduce the meaning as x = 1/ ½ . This means time will become 2/3 as long. In other words a 24 hour day will become 16 hours long. This is backed up by Rev. 8:12 where it is written, “The day and night did not shine for a 1/3 part.” Hence the earth will spin faster.

Time, times and a half means x = 1 1/2. Therefore a year will change from 365 days to 822 which is 1 1/2 years at a 16 hour day. This means the Earth’s orbit will widen from centrifugal force putting us into the belt of asteroids between Earth and Mars.

The phenomena that the Bible has written is: Israel flourishes with vegetation; men will be perplexed from the waves. When Jesus comes back there will be frost on Mt. Olive. Asteroids will cause hail and fire mingled with blood and wormwood. Islands will be shaken out of place.

The reason for this application of the days shortening is for the Elect’s sake (Matt. 24:22). I think it will become impossible to function with the technology of satellites etc. Changing the orbit will put the satellites out of commission. Even now you need a residence to get a drivers license and you need a state driver’s license to get a residence. Already people in Europe can’t get jobs because they’re under qualified. This will wear out the saints. It’s like to get established you have to have the mark of the beast.

The prince of the world will try to change times and laws because of the covenants in Jer. 31 and Jer. 33 so that he can rule over the saints. But in actuality the saints will be relived from charge. Then the prince of the covenant will not have his bearing anymore (Dan. 11:22)

Then when the year becomes 1 ½ the saints will be brought to a safe place from Satan. (Rev. 12:14)

My understanding is that the device to change the rotation will be at the Aswan dam with the hydro-electric generator, because Isaiah prophesizes the tongue of the Nile will be smote. (Isa. 11:15) When I was at the university of Arkansas I studied electrical engineering and started thinking I could use the rotation of the Earth for power. Then it dawned on me it would alter the Earth’s rotation. Since the Earth has a magnetic field, my theory has been proven since then using a model of one suspended spinning magnet spinning another.

Also I had a vision in 1988 of the Earth spinning faster and the Republic of South Africa became the South Pole. This means that the Earth’s axis changes 30 degrees. This vision is what Daniel wrote in Dan. 11:14 about robbers trying to establish the vision but fall. After I saw the vision I saw it in a commercial.


Well that’s it… I would like someone to help me see the logic here.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
Oh my, the poor guy needs some medication. Well, you're not going to convince him of anything, so you might try drawing him out only as a source of amusement. ::73

"The reason for this application of the days shortening is for the Elect’s sake (Matt. 24:22)."

That could be one area to explore, mentioning The Elect means he probably believes in Predestination. Before they are even born, Gawd chooses certain souls to be with him after they die. There's no way to know, but if you go to a church that believes in predestination, it's a sign you probably are part of the elect. If you aren't part of the elect, it doesn't matter what you believe or what faith you have, you aren't going to heaven. ::51 ::54

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Peer review Reply with quote
I did tell you this guy is out there.

But as a person who is attempting to have a civil relationship with my neighbors, is there some way I can comment on these flyers without starting a holy war?

Because I suspect that if he sees that his little pamphlets do not sway me, things could get even more uncomfortable between us. But I do not want to encourage him to continue his efforts either.

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What I would suggest is that you be as polite as possible in telling him that you don't really get what he's talking about and that it isn't something that you feel particularly inclined to explore further, but thanks. Politely, so that you can be sure later on that you weren't the one that set the conflict off. Because if this guys really is dead set on bringing you around to his point of view, conflict is probably inevitable. If it helps, you can tell him that visionaries usually aren't understood by their contemporaries (which is true), but ultimately this guy sounds a little cracked (which you probably shoudn't say).

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