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What happened to the greatest country on earth? WE ARE NOT THE GREATEST ANYMORE!
Meanwhile, we are one of the most religious countries on Earth. Don't listen to the propaganda Katie, research these things yourself. You think you understand the moral implications of abortion? You don't, I can tell by the emotion in your post. It seems to me you would be the type to force a young woman to give birth to the child of her rapist father. Your moral compass is all whack because it points erratically to some sky-daddy who doesn't exist. Search within yourself, you have a moral compass of your own.
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Well, well.
We are getting into some stupefying wrong now, aren’t we, Katelyn?
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@ Interbane, You are convinced that there isn't a God. That is also something that can't be proven.
While it is generally true that you can’t disprove A god in general, whenever you make a claim about a particular god, then there is something to work with. For instance, claiming in no uncertain terms that if anyone has as much faith in their heart as a mustard seed they can move mountains, and then that said faith fails to motivate any stone into motion, then at least that god has been disproven. And that would be your god, Katelyn.
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Yes, I have faith there is a God. And the lady (Sorry, can't remember all these usernames.) is right. That is how I mean 'know'.
We understood that from the start, but what you continue to fail to understand is that there is a very important difference between know and believe. That difference comprises everything that there is about “know”.
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No one, nothing will stop me. Not you, not the devil, nothing.
If you got through our responses, I think you will find no reference at all to anyone trying to stop you from writing. In fact, I have made a couple of comments meant to encourage you. Just who are you railing against Katelyn?
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can something float around in outer space for billions of years (BTW, it wasn't anything. Because there was nothing.) and suddenly, KABOOM! there's everything? Who made it? How did it get there? It never was. Can you prove it was? No. All of your theories are false. You can't prove any of it. You can't. Go ahead. Prove it. I don't want to hear about babies with tails, 'cause that is a bunch of junk. I don't want to hear about Darwin, or any other stupid scientist. I want you to PROVE to me that there was a little fish swimming in outer space that blew into a giant monkey, that then turned into a hunchback man, who turned into a cave man, who turned into a modern man, and I guess this modern man became a woman. Do not correct me. I know that is not what schools teach, but it was basically the same. If ONE monkey turned into a man, what about women? Where did they come from? My faith makes sense. God makes ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN.
Katelyn, what you have there is so far off the mark it’s not even wrong.
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This Countries pledge is "One nation under GOD" not "One nation under 6% athiest" Why would that be? Things were a whole lot tougher back when they made that quote. They didn't have all the lux items we have today. They were fighting to stay alive.
Life. Millions of babies are killed every single day. And PepsiCo products are putting them into products to lower calories and add "bursting with flavor". What about that admendment?
Did you read the amendment? Did you bother to look it up before you started slapping your fingers at that keyboard?
Next, just what the hell are you talking about? You think pepsi is stuffing aborted babies into it’s drinks? You’re thinking of soilent green, Katelyn. It sounds to me that your parents forbid you to drink soda, and this is the retarded lie they told you to scare you away. And you bought it. Nice. Way to think things through.
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That baby had a heartbeat. But because some selfish brat decided she didn't want a baby, that poor thing was torn apart and boby parts were sold. I want to cry and puke about that.
You know nothing at all about the kinds of choices that people have to make when considering abortion. Hell, you don’t even have the wherewithal to distinguish between a flagrant boogeyman tale to keep you off mountain dew and an understanding of what will sell soda.
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What happened to the greatest country on earth?
It depends on which greatest country on earth you are talking about, Katelyn. Often times, it’s religious fanaticism and a rejection and suspicion of empirical thought that has crashed great civilizations.
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WE ARE NOT THE GREATEST ANYMORE! Not when we act like heathens. We used to make fun of the indians because of their ways. Well, at least they don't kill their children and stick them in soda!
Who makes fun of Indians? Not surprisingly, nobody at all puts dead children in their soda. You are a fool to believe this.
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Omw! No. Research PepsiCo shareholders: "fetus" (really baby) cells. I'm gone. Au revoir!
Hm. No mention of fetus on there. Just a liberal lie, i'm sure.
No. You have squandered all credibility and lenience.
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Have you tried that? Looking for answers? Or have you been content to be terrified of a thing you know nothing about?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
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Wow - PepsiCo responded, saying, “our collaboration with Senomyx is strictly limited to creating lower-calorie, great-tasting beverages for consumers.”
In all seriousness, there's barely a smidgeon of truth here. Pepsi contracts with Senomyx, which has used fetal cells from an "electively aborted baby" to do research on artificial flavor enhancers.
So there are no actual aborted fetal cells in a can of Pepsi. The aborted fetal cells are used to to mimic human taste receptors while conducting research on artificial flavor enhancers.
"Using isolated human taste receptors we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor,” says the Senomyx website.
For what it's worth, I think this is pretty messed up. Regardless of your perspective on abortion, it seems amazingly insensitive to use biological material from an aborted human fetus to do research for a brand of soda.
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Who thinks this shit up? You really have to wonder how they came around to testing artificial flavoring on aborted cells. Why not use donated body parts from crash victims or what-have-you? For some reason that seems slightly less offensive than using the cells of aborted fetus's.
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Who thinks this shit up? You really have to wonder how they came around to testing artificial flavoring on aborted cells. Why not use donated body parts from crash victims or what-have-you? For some reason that seems slightly less offensive than using the cells of aborted fetus's.
Some of the criticism against the company is precisely that they have other options. What's not clear is how many aborted fetuses have been used. It sounds like just one. Are they still conducting tests using this fetus' cells? You would think they would find other ways.
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Some of the criticism against the company is precisely that they have other options. What's not clear is how many aborted fetuses have been used. It sounds like just one. Are they still conducting tests using this fetus' cells? You would think they would find other ways.
You sound like a Coke fan. I think you're all just biased against Pepsi. I don't mind drinking babies.
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Some of the criticism against the company is precisely that they have other options. What's not clear is how many aborted fetuses have been used. It sounds like just one. Are they still conducting tests using this fetus' cells? You would think they would find other ways.
You sound like a Coke fan. I think you're all just biased against Pepsi. I don't mind drinking babies.
Coke is definitely better. Its secret ingredient, of course, is tiger blood.
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there are no actual aborted fetal cells in a can of Pepsi.
This is one of those awful true statements that generate its opposing myth, creating a vivid image which has emotional carriage regardless of the facts.
PepsiCo would be better off apologizing and promising not to allow such research in future. Otherwise the urban myth will cause people to make an association that is not helpful for marketing.
The true story is far too complicated to understand, whereas the simple false version cuts through.
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geo wrote:
there are no actual aborted fetal cells in a can of Pepsi.
This is one of those awful true statements that generate its opposing myth, creating a vivid image which has emotional carriage regardless of the facts.
PepsiCo would be better off apologizing and promising not to allow such research in future. Otherwise the urban myth will cause people to make an association that is not helpful for marketing.
The true story is far too complicated to understand, whereas the simple false version cuts through.
I completely agree, Robert. The level of corporate stupidity is amazing. Perhaps this story hasn't gotten much traction yet, but by the time it does the damage will have been done.
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