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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: About the parking poll and handicapped spots. Reply with quote
As currently phrased this poll is hard to answer and it is hard to know what the numbers mean if anything. For me the literal answer is, sure, lots of times. My 81-year-old landlady for whom I sometimes drive has a handicap space parking tag since her last stroke; my mother has a tag due to her dependence on an oxygen tank; and I transport people with disabilities not infrequently as a part of my job, in an agency vehicle. Also, people at other agencies I network with have disabilities and they drive when I am a passenger in their car and they park in those designated spots. So, yes, I have. Furthermore, I'll bet some users of this site have disabilities and there's no way of reflecting that in the poll results. But if the question is, as it seems possible to interpret it, have you (a currently able-bodied person, we assume) parked without authorization or reason in a handicapped spot, then my answer would be no. What is the poll trying to show?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gentle Reader.....

This pole is trying to show...that some of us disregard the rights of others...when it is 'convenient' for us to do so.....

But some of us......whether we believe in a God or not......care enough about what is right......

I am not an atheist.......but having read the posts on this website...and come to know...(a little) some of those who call themselves 'atheists'......

IF A MAN CALLS HIMSELF AND ATHEIST.....AND DENIES GOD....it seems he must then strive to become more Godlike.........and strive to do what is right.....just because it matters.

And I, for one.....feel more than respect, more than empathy, dare I say it......I feel love!!!......and...that is why, I am not an atheist..... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Gentle Reader.....

This pole is trying to show...that some of us disregard the rights of others...when it is 'convenient' for us to do so.....

But some of us......whether we believe in a God or not......care enough about what is right......

I am not an atheist.......but having read the posts on this website...and come to know...(a little) some of those who call themselves 'atheists'......

IF A MAN CALLS HIMSELF AND ATHEIST.....AND DENIES GOD....it seems he must then strive to become more Godlike.........and strive to do what is right.....just because it matters.

And I, for one.....feel more than respect, more than empathy, dare I say it......I feel love!!!......and...that is why, I am not an atheist..... Wink



Uhm...hokay! I just dont park there because someone who is disabled has a harder time getting around. Of course, there are some I have known to use the disabled tag without really needing to.

What do you all think about spots for pregnant women? I say yay! I will not draw distinctions between atheists and theists here because, well..what does it really have to do with it in the first place!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh Mr. P.....Some of us consider other people because 'God' (misrepresented in the Bible)....tells us to.....

Some of us do it....just from the sheer goodness that is in us.....

Well, if I was God....I know who I'd love most......and it wouldn't be me! Sad

Take care old thing!!! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The poll really didn't have anything to do with belief in a god.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well, I am definitely not Stupendously Brilliant....that is just Chris O'Conner...putting things under my profile.....because I have an inkling that although I disagree with him...he is rather fond of me...as I am of him.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Preggers Parking Reply with quote
For the first time, ever... I must disagree with Mr. Pessimistic! Screw the pregnant women! Let them walk! It's healthy for them to walk anyway! I should get a better spot because I have chosen not to have kids! Is it really illegal to park there or are those just courtesy signs? I will definitely start parking there if it's not illegal! All of these years, and I really think this is the first time we don't agree on an issue, Mr. Pessimistic!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Preggers Parking Reply with quote
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For the first time, ever... I must disagree with Mr. Pessimistic! Screw the pregnant women! Let them walk! It's healthy for them to walk anyway! I should get a better spot because I have chosen not to have kids! Is it really illegal to park there or are those just courtesy signs? I will definitely start parking there if it's not illegal! All of these years, and I really think this is the first time we don't agree on an issue, Mr. Pessimistic!


Thats because you are inconsiderate!!! Razz

Seriously. Walking is good for them, but at a grocery store, if they are alone and full on pregnatato...it may be difficult for them to manage. I just dont mind making things easier on my fellow humans.

But Tara...you are an Atheist...what should we expect from you!!! Razz Razz


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It has been an exceptionally horrible week in England, in which a jeering mob in Derby urged a disturbed teenager to jump to his death from a roof and then jostled to take pictures of his corpse with their mobile phones; in which a gang of youths in Norwich murdered a man for coming to the aid of someone they were in the process of beating up; in which staff of a flooring company in Essex frog-marched a former colleague through the streets with a placard reading 'thief' around his neck.

We are a broken society - full of rotten little pockets in which the most callous and brutal behaviour is tolerated, if not glorified.

What did our ancestors fight for? Their struggles to win us a civilised humane and fair society, seem to have been thwarted. Sad

Sorry, I needed that rant.

Nothing to do with being an atheist is it Mr.P?
Tarav would be just as inconsiderate, faith or no faith, it being in his nature.
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P: "We are a broken society - full of rotten little pockets in which the most callous and brutal behaviour is tolerated, if not glorified."

Ahh if you could only have lived 500 years ago. The media allows such events to overshadow the incredible lack of such events. We live in the most peaceful age yet of all human history.
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I'm talking about England - not the World. And I know that England is much more barbaric now than 40-50 years ago.

It is like a circle or spiral - I think we (my age group) lived in the best of times......

I know one thing.....my generation are the first generation I've known who feel sorry for our kids. Previous generations have thought the world was better for their children than it was for them.
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Penelope: "I know that England is much more barbaric now than 40-50 years ago."

I challenge you to prove that. Media bias is a slippery snake. Though you may be immune to it, your peers may not, and that is every bit as effective.
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The post I made this morning about the barbaric behaviour, which has all happened here, only this week....is the only proof I can offer.

Anyway....you have youthful optimism and so you should.

Take no notice of me.....I'm just an old grumps!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Penelope. In view of your advanced years, you may well have been conceived the night 'Bomber Harris' destroyed the beautiful ancient city of Dresden, as an act of sheer bloody revenge. Do people still do that in England? My dad is a good friend of the novelist David Malouf. I remember David telling us a story about when he was a teacher in England. The class were on the oval, and the head teacher called out 'last one back gets it'. The boys ran in terror, and of course there was an unfortunate who was last. The sadistic master placed the child's head between his knees and proceeded to burn him with a magnifying glass pointed towards your pale english sun. Do they still do that? England has always been horrible. At least you have stopped putting people's heads on pikestaffs at Westminster.
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