In this case it seems the parent is the responsible party, but i see what you are getting at, Chris.
A four foot wall should be sufficient, plus the fact there are wild dogs on the other side, to keep adults out. But kids need parents because they don't yet have the sense of adults, and a four foot wall doesn't necessarily represent an impassible barrier to an energetic kid.
I could see problems with momentarily unsupervised kids free-falling to their death, but in this particular instance, no. From what i heard, it was the parent's fault.
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Who knows how any one of would have acted in such a situation, but it seems to me the mother or someone should have jumped down immediately to try and save the child.johnson1010 wrote:In this case it seems the parent is the responsible party, but i see what you are getting at, Chris.
A four foot wall should be sufficient, plus the fact there are wild dogs on the other side, to keep adults out. But kids need parents because they don't yet have the sense of adults, and a four foot wall doesn't necessarily represent an impassible barrier to an energetic kid.
I could see problems with momentarily unsupervised kids free-falling to their death, but in this particular instance, no. From what i heard, it was the parent's fault.
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Yeah.
Tough spot thinking about it after the fact, and i'm sure the parent is raking herself over the coals for it.
Like i said, that's a steep price to pay for a few moments of foolishness which could easily have gone another, safe, way.
I would have jumped down and tried to rally the other people there to help me fend off the dogs. But then, this is after having thought about this scenario for a while. It feels like a plan i just came up with, but i've had this in my head for days now. Who knows how it would have gone down in the moment?
Well, i wouldn't have put him on the fence for one.
It's sad. The mother doesn't need people piling on her as well. I'm sure she's beating the hell out of herself every day. I won't speak on this any more. If she ever google searches and comes across this i don't want to pile on her too hard.
She was being foolish, but the price was too high. Too bad all around.
Tough spot thinking about it after the fact, and i'm sure the parent is raking herself over the coals for it.
Like i said, that's a steep price to pay for a few moments of foolishness which could easily have gone another, safe, way.
I would have jumped down and tried to rally the other people there to help me fend off the dogs. But then, this is after having thought about this scenario for a while. It feels like a plan i just came up with, but i've had this in my head for days now. Who knows how it would have gone down in the moment?
Well, i wouldn't have put him on the fence for one.
It's sad. The mother doesn't need people piling on her as well. I'm sure she's beating the hell out of herself every day. I won't speak on this any more. If she ever google searches and comes across this i don't want to pile on her too hard.
She was being foolish, but the price was too high. Too bad all around.
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How awful!! Yes it is easy to lay blame. But I can't forget the horror I felt when I took my five year old to see penguins at the zoo. He dropped his camera into the enclosure, and to my horror, clambered in to get it back out again. OK penguins are harmless, but still, it happened so quick
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I think zoos are horrible anyway. I agree, though, that the zoo is not to blame. People need to take responsibility for their actions and THINK before they do whatever the fuck they want. We think we can always just do what we want because we want to do it. That is what gets people in trouble, and that is when we get crap like lawsuits against businesses and other people that are frivolous. So much pain and sorrow could be avoided if either people would think before they act or the stupidity gets selected out of the species.
At the very least, the gene pool has improved a bit. This is purely the fault of the parent. I NEVER had one of my four kids accidentally get into any dangerous situation. My wife and I were always diligent in keeping them safe when we were out. We did not get distracted and always were responsible. I see so many parents out there that should not be. I agree with one of the other posts...licensing and testing should be mandatory for having children. It is not 'ok' anymore to breed at will. The world is too complex for blind shots.
At the very least, the gene pool has improved a bit. This is purely the fault of the parent. I NEVER had one of my four kids accidentally get into any dangerous situation. My wife and I were always diligent in keeping them safe when we were out. We did not get distracted and always were responsible. I see so many parents out there that should not be. I agree with one of the other posts...licensing and testing should be mandatory for having children. It is not 'ok' anymore to breed at will. The world is too complex for blind shots.
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Once upon a time, humans lived in a dangerous environment, where the least misstep or lapse of attention could get you killed. So humans grew up (the ones who survived to grow up, anyway) watchful and careful. And they thought about their situation and figured out ways to push the dangerous environment back and isolate and protect themselves from it.
So today, we live is a relatively safe, in many ways, almost danger-free world. We grow up care free, with little pressure or incentive to be watchful, to learn how to stay safe, to notice the smell of a predator on the breeze. And most of the time, it's okay, because we stay in that safe, danger-free world. We're protected.
Every so often, though, reality breaks through and touches us. A tornado destroys a town. A school shooting happens nearby. An airplane crashes. A woman accidentally drops her baby into a cage full of wild dogs. A young man climbs into a tiger enclosure because he wants "to be one with the tiger" and is badly injured.
Hopefully, those so touched learn to be more careful next time. May we all learn to be watchful and careful from the mistakes we read about, rather than having to learn such lessons firsthand.
So today, we live is a relatively safe, in many ways, almost danger-free world. We grow up care free, with little pressure or incentive to be watchful, to learn how to stay safe, to notice the smell of a predator on the breeze. And most of the time, it's okay, because we stay in that safe, danger-free world. We're protected.
Every so often, though, reality breaks through and touches us. A tornado destroys a town. A school shooting happens nearby. An airplane crashes. A woman accidentally drops her baby into a cage full of wild dogs. A young man climbs into a tiger enclosure because he wants "to be one with the tiger" and is badly injured.
Hopefully, those so touched learn to be more careful next time. May we all learn to be watchful and careful from the mistakes we read about, rather than having to learn such lessons firsthand.
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Of course the zoo says that. In every lawsuit each side blames the other. This doesn't mean the mother is 100% at fault. They should assign a percentage of negligence to both sides. I'd say the mother is 75% to blame and the zoo 25%.
Does anyone know if the zoo has raised the wall in question since this incident took place?
Does anyone know if the zoo has raised the wall in question since this incident took place?
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Yes, because Cheetahs wouldn't rip someone to shreds who fell into their enclosure. LOL
I agree this was the mom's fault. I'm just feeling her sadness and pain as I have a 2 year old little boy and I cannot fathom how it would be to lose him.
I agree this was the mom's fault. I'm just feeling her sadness and pain as I have a 2 year old little boy and I cannot fathom how it would be to lose him.